Suggestions : Surrender

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Dox
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Suggestions : Surrender

Post#1 » Tue 20 Nov, 2018 2:50 pm

Often in the last months i see server emptied by the : "quit rage effect" because the people hate loose and because their faction disapear.. loosing interest

Most case the match go over for other 15-20 min and the people disconnect and all became no funny , neither for the winner faction.. So...

So ...My thought is.. to give a new possibility , the possibility of surrended..

The way can be :
- if a faction (faction1) have more then 75% on point captured can ask to other faction to surrender , from HQ on the flag (1 request every 5 minute)
- the peolple in the HQ of faction 2 see the request of surreder and can vote yes or no , if 75% of faction2 player vote yes the game is over


i hate see server emptied at 22:00 for rage quitter.. and i understand the people dont like play in unbalanced team
an option like that can be usefull to keep server full and avoid frustration

:spineyes:

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MortarMan
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Post#2 » Wed 21 Nov, 2018 11:49 am

I think this is a really good idea. People who ragequit usually give up playing for the rest of the day, so they do not come back when the match is over. By introducing this voting idea they might stay on the server. I think this is important as recently I see less and less players, even in the prime time hours.

Limdi
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Post#3 » Wed 21 Nov, 2018 8:13 pm

Is someone working on the balance problem?

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Dox
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Post#4 » Wed 21 Nov, 2018 8:57 pm

autobalance bring a couple of problem

1) not correct for the player that is forced on other faction, maybe is a player that work hard for win in other faction .. so probably not accept this way and rage quit

2) a moved player know the mhq position...

imo is the wrong way

i agree if the lobby block people that want get in the faction with more people , if the difference is >= 2 you cant click ok...

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Post#5 » Wed 21 Nov, 2018 11:14 pm

@Dox we had a nice script written by @BlenderRodriguez.
The actual problem is deciding for effects.
Do we want to kick (or reject) people or give the better team some respawn penalties or money bonuses for the weaker team.... and so on

Limdi
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Post#6 » Thu 22 Nov, 2018 12:14 am

If said script exists, why not try it out with different effects and see how it goes? Anything is better than now. It can't get worse.

It's like talking semantics while the house is on fire.

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scratch
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Post#7 » Thu 22 Nov, 2018 11:37 am

Yea apply kick system for autobalance claims and this server will went straight to a black list with no worries
the floor is lava!

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Dox
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Post#8 » Thu 22 Nov, 2018 12:24 pm

@TheMasterofBlubb

this is a good news

the reject on lobby is the first countermeasure

in the case of kick: what happen if i'm kicked and rejoin same faction ? probably if the kick is a randon function is not a good solution.

punish player of a winner faction is not correct...
maybe.. maybe.. give a bonus(15k) if a player has been moved can be a solution, or give a bonus if volontary a player move in other team

obviusly the bonus must be related on how long the layout is running, because if a match is started from 5 min or 3 hour is very diffent

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Post#9 » Thu 22 Nov, 2018 6:46 pm

+1 for Dox's idea here.

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santiagovazquez
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Post#10 » Fri 23 Nov, 2018 11:46 pm

This is a great idea. i add one more:

only the players with 15+ mins of gametime can vote.
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durak_ivan
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Post#11 » Sat 22 Dec, 2018 2:45 pm

Good idea hard to implement.
How to notify, how the loosing team or winning team, decide to surrender?

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Post#12 » Sun 23 Dec, 2018 11:00 am

Regarding the money solution, why not use it?
Just balance by giving the team with least players after a number of time an increase in money.
Base it on a percentage.

Perhaps let the other team have a say in it, I would say yes to giving the other team more money if they became outnumbered, while we all were invested in the game.

Regarding the other suggestion:
Autokicking or rejecting players is the last we want for a declining community!

The vote for a victory is also very welcome, so that 2 players can not be holding up the rest of the say 10 players. Everyone will hopefully stay after a decent ending by vote.

But perhaps do not call it 'Surrender', but call it a 'Truce'.
More people will vote for a truce then a loss (surrender)?

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